Curved Core LARP Weapons

AU$24,025
of $5,000 targetyrs ago
Successful on 6th Nov 2018 at 12:59PM.

LARP-safe swords and axes with curved cores! 



Elysian Forge Pty Ltd, based in Canberra, Australia has succeeded in creating durable and LARP-safe Custom-shaped fibreglass cores, and we are running thios crowdfunding project to deliver these beautiful and unique LARP and cosplay weapons, launch products include LARP-safe swords, axes and more, inspired by famous historical examples and our own designs:

 

~Japanese: Tanto, Wakizashi, Katana, Nodachi, Odachi 

~Sabres: 1796 Light Cavalry, Polish Hussar, Cutlass (naval sabre)

~Indo-Persian & Middle-East: Khopesh, Shamshir, Tulwar 

~Axes: Dark-age Handaxe, Hungarian-inspired Waraxe and Greataxe


Pledges for these products through Pozible represent a discount over the intended retail price following this campaign.
You can pledge for any number of a single type of weapon in a single pledge, and you can pledge again for a different type.
If you live in Canberra, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Ballarat, Bendigo, or somewhere on the road between them, you may select "pickup" and pay nothing for shipping. We'll deliver it to you :).



A simple concept - after all, there are a huge number of historically important, martially interesting, and just beautiful curved swords and axes.

Makers of LARP gear have struggled to produce safe and reliable curved swords. There are multiple design and technical challenges to producing the rigid cores that make them safe to and yet strong enough for full contact use, as well as fitting within the construction rules of most LARP organisations. See our videos on our YouTube Channel, which go into more detail on the technical points and challenges, and the performance of our product. These technical challenges haven't stopped LARPers from desiring these beautiful swords. 

It's a rare day of fighting when a player does not openly lament the missing curved Katanas, the lack of Sabres and the conspicuously absent Khopesh. This is why we have spent the last year developing our patent-pending method of making custom shaped fibreglass cores, as well as rubber molding techniques. 




The shapes of the cores we can produce allow for a huge scope unique products beyond just curved swords, but also for hammers, sickles, halberds and axes where the core continues through the head, reinforcing it to stop them from tearing when hooking weapons and shields. We have demonstrated our prototypes to our local LARP group, The Hundred Swords, and you can see the prototypes in use in the gallery and video. The demo was a great success, with the club impressed by the feel, weighting, and detailed finish of our prototypes. 

Curved swords feel noticeably different from straight swords. Unlike straight swords, the centre of mass of a curved sword is rarely inside the blade, and rarely aligned with the handle. For backwards curved blades like our Shamshir, the hand tends to drag the blade in the direction of the cut, producing sweeping arc-cuts unlike those of straight blades. You can see this in our video. It has a distinct feel to it that is hard to explain. In the case of forward-curved blades like the Khopesh, the weight of the blade feels like it's dragging the hand forward, resulting in a meaty swing that feels very powerful for chopping, like an axe. It was partly our curiosity about the different feel of curved blades that drove us to develop these fascinating weapons and bring them into the LARP sphere, and we feel that they do not disappoint. 


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arT7WyY-V28


The reason we have chosen to launch via Pozible is a matter of time and scale. We are a small operation at the moment. LARPers the world over are missing out on curved swords, and we want to provide them. With our current resources, it would remain a costly side-project, we would not be able to expand or deliver at a high capacity, and the resulting cost of each individual product to the end-user would be much higher. Pozible gives us the chance to make use of bulk discounts and to explore larger-scale solutions to production, ultimately enabling us to provide these products at a lower cost to the end-user. Elysian Forge invites you now to purchase for yourself a game-changing LARP sword or axe, and to help us deliver a new kind of LARP to the world!


Risks and challenges


The main challenge so far has been having enough time to devote to actually making our products, and the resources to develop more designs. A successful or more-than-successful Pozible campaign will give us the resources to focus on and deliver the scale and range of products we would need to turn from the current passion project to viable ongoing manufacture.


Risks:

- Low Level of success
In our current form, we are close to being able to develop the business gradually, doing things the same way we are now, but with greater resources. So we have set a relatively small Funding goal. That amount would be enough to properly deliver our launch product lines and get set up for growth.


- Unexpectedly high level of success
If the Pozible campaign was to significantly outperform our expectations, our current method of operation would struggle to deliver the products in a reasonable time frame. We have laid the groundwork to plan for that outcome. We have engaged with multiple larger scale manufacturing facilities, so even if the campaign succeeds at a level beyond our current capacity, we are able to increase the overall production scale. The main issues here will be lead-times for the manufacturer to prepare their facilities; ensuring quality control when we are not 'hands on' the process; and that the development costs for each new product line would be much higher, which will slow down our ability to expand with new lines. However, with the extra time we would gain by not having to personally make each sword, we can spend a lot more time working on designs and ensuring shipping is managed.


- Delivering on shipping timeframes
We have been very conservative with our estimates of the reward shipping dates, so should be achievable regardless of the level of success of the Pozible. If we need to move to larger scale manufacturing, it may extend the timeline for the less popular products, but the time frames we have discussed with potential providers look acceptable. Obviously we will be delivering as quickly as possible in order of backing! Get in early!


- Skills and experience
Elysian Forge has 2 directors - Steve and Anthony. We share many interests, the most obvious being a passion for history, LARP and HEMA. But we also have a diverse range of skills beyond that, which compliment well to put us in a position to be able to deliver on our vision to get Elysian Forge's game-changing LARP swords and axes to the world.
Steve is a qualified engineer, and has worked in R&D and manufacturing for nearly a decade. He has made designs that have gone into thousands of products. He has contacts in the manufacturing industry and has personally gone through the design and implementation process for many projects, as well as developing our patent-pending core creation method.
Anthony has been a banker for 7 years, and specialising in Small and Medium Business management for the last 6. He has strong business acumen, detailed understanding, and significant experience of financial systems and requirements for businesses to operate and to be successful, across many industries.


Technical challenges:

-Temperature and humidity control
Controlling temperature and humidity is currently the biggest issue for our foam molding process. Properties of the final product are affected by the temperature of the chemical constituents and the mold itself. Keeping several meter-long molds at a specific temperature is not particularly easy when the workspace also has to be ventilated to keep fumes to safe levels.

There are several solutions to this problem, the first being to outsource manufacturing to specialist foam molding facilities. This requires a large capital investment, but would almost certainly mean that the cost of the final product would be reduced, and quality would increase. It is our preferred option.

The second option would be to upgrade our current facility to one where the entire workshop could be temperature and humidity controlled, and adequate ventilation assured. This would mean we would have to continue making products ourselves, which would make it more difficult to develop new designs.


- Tip shape and size, core thrusting tip
This is a challenge we have already faced, and is a problem which all LARP swords and polearms are subject to. The geometry of the tip of the sword determines how easy it is to break and how it feels to be struck with. Our current Shamshir design has a very slender tip which tapers in two dimensions, making it difficult to fit a core into to the end, and having less material to absorb the stress of a thrust. This makes these particular designs more subject to breakage than, say, our Katana, which has never broken at the tip. So the design on the Shamshir will need to be updated prior to shipping to ensure it is not able to break.

Some organisations require the tip of a LARP weapon to have a flexible or "thrusting" tip which absorbs some force during a thrust. We have spent significant time and effort developing our own version, and have settled on a very strong variant where a rubber tip is attached to the end of our custom cores during the creation process. We are also considering adding a Kevlar Cap to the tip to help prevent breakage.

Budget Overview

We have been developing our techniques and skills in our own time and with our own funds.

We have reached the point in development that we're happy with the process and product, however, we require the capital boost from crowdfunding in order to be able to set ourselves up for ongoing success.


Our funding goal is quite low at $5,000. 

This is a hard minimum that we would need to continue operating in a small scale, but it actually doesn't even cover what we have already put in ourselves to date.


Our goal is to become a major manufacturer of LARP weapons, which will be a costly and time consuming process. We'll have to seek specialist manufacturers and upgrade our own facilities. The question is how quickly we are able to grow and flourish. If this campaign is very successful, then our road to this goal is shorter, the quality of the products will be better, future products will be cheaper, and we'll be free to develop even more amazing products.

So basically, every extra dollar helps us deliver more, better, and faster.

Throwing Dagger, Gav Pattern type II

'Gav II' throwing Dagger LARP ready throwing daggers of the Gav II type - the second iteration that keeps the original outer dimensions of a classic throwing weapon designed by one of Canberra LARP's founders, Gavan who tragically passed away this year. His name will live on through these daggers

1 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Blade decoration upgrade

Pledge for this option to upgrade an existing pledge to have your sword or axe made with a beautiful, detailed, colourful blade decoration. Examples are: Blue and gold officer pattern for Cavalry Sabre, black and gold for Khopesh, damascus steel for Shamshir.

4 chosen

Est. delivery is May 19

Honour seal

A cast rubber wax seal of the elysian forge logo with attached scroll. The scroll will be a thank you letter in an exotic/historic script

2 chosen

Est. delivery is Mar 19

Set of 3 throwing daggers, Gav pattern type II

Set of 3 Gav pattern type II throwing daggers

5 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Tanto

Tanto, a Japanese dagger, which matches the other Japanese swords (aka Nihontō) in our collection.

4 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Hungarian Waraxe (head only)

LARP safe large bearded axe, exaggerated from a 15th Century Hungarian battle axe that included a hooking beard and a warhammer on the back if the head. This design also has a thrusting spike making it usable as a 1 or 2 handed axe, or a polearm like a halberd or transitional poleaxe. It has our core-through-head structure, allowing strong hooking manoeuvres. This option is for just the head, allowing you to attach it to a haft of your own desired length.

5 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Wakizashi

LARP safe 75cm Japanese shortsword. Fittings match the rest of our Japanaese range of swords (Nihontō)

1 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Egyptian Khopesh

85cm LARP safe khopesh with bronze finish.

26 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Dark Age Handaxe

85 cm LARP safe axe based on a common Dark Age/migration era design, Petersen type L. It is made with our core-through-head structure, for strong hooking manoeuvres unavailable with most current LARP axe designs.

2 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Hungarian Waraxe

100cm hafted LARP safe large bearded axe, exaggerated from a 15th Century Hungarian battle axe that included a hooking beard and a warhammer on the back if the head. This design also has a thrusting spike making it usable as a 1 or 2 handed axe, or a polearm like a halberd or transitional poleaxe. It has our core-through-head structure, allowing strong hooking manoeuvres. This option is a 100cm long version for single handed use.

9 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Shamshir or Tulwar.

LARP safe 100cm shamshir or Tulwar. These indo-persian sword types were in use for over 1000 years in the Middle East and India. This style has a 'variable' curve, the blade starting straight before curving backward dramatically to the tip.

19 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Sabre

LARP safe 100cm sabre. Multiple designs to choose from including British 1796 light cavalry sabre, and a Polish Hussars sabre.

25 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Katana

LARP safe 100cm katana, with a curve closer to the earlier Heian period tachis. Fittings match the rest of our Japanese range of swords.

0 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Nodachi

LARP safe 150cm Nodachi, the Japanese longsword, with fittings matching the rest of our Japanese range of products.

0 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

2 Handed Khopesh

In response to meeting our stretch goal of $20,000, we asked our customers to choose from a selection of weapons they'd most like to see made next, and you chose a 2 handed khopesh! Pictured is a preliminary design made of mdf and finished in bronze to give an idea of the final look. 160cm long. Whilst not based on any known historical forms, there are similar designs often represented in films. Would go well for an elite guard or executioner. Excellent for hooking and bypassing shields.

1 chosen

Est. delivery is May 19

Daishō

The 'Daishō' refers to a samurai's two swords as a matched pair - the short Wakizashi, and the longer Katana. Includes both our Katana and Wakizashi LARP safe swords

3 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Ōdachi

LARP safe 180cm ōdachi, the Japanese great sword, with fittings matching the rest of our Japanese range of products.

1 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19

Golden Khopesh

A LARP-ready Khopesh, in glorious bright gold, with a customised inscription. A rare and unique item for those who wish to go above and beyond to help us achieve our vision. These gleaming Golden versions will incorporate an ornately sculpted handle design. The Golden Khopesh will only be available to our most generous crowdfunding benefactors, and as prizes for potential future events.

4 chosen

Est. delivery is Apr 19